Here is a portion of what I wrote on page 72 of my book, Fallen. This is stated in the incident where Moses disobeyed by striking the rock instead of speaking to it (Numbers 20:1011). So Adam could eat of every tree except for the . And 2 kids who wont hear it that way from Dad. #1 Eve "saw" that the tree was good for food. Thanks for the comments. 30? It says that he went to the land of Nod and then she conceived a son (Enoch). Now we do not see You any more. So there minds were NOT YET CORRUPTED until God ALLOWED there FREE WILL to be tested, just as the Father through the Holy Spirit ALLOWED Christ Jesus to be tested in the wilderness. I know you didnt use the word constant but thats sort of the point in my article. IMV they were walking in the IMAGE for which God created them with the FREE WILL to CHOOSE. This is something I have heard countless times, and based on the number of responses trying to justify such a view, its pretty clear that a lot of others have heard it and/or taught it. Adam blamed the woman, the . He could have spoken out of a whirlwind to them and banished them from the Garden in that form. I hope you will continue in the pursuit of God's Truth. What do you think?? I hope this clarifies my objective in the post. They heard God's approach as a terrible wind that lashed the trees of the garden, and they took cover. Again, nothing in Scripture tells us that they walked with God or carried on a conversation with Him. When Eve gave birth to Seth (at age 130) she viewed him as a replacement for Abel. How do I know? He does indeed come down, but this time for confrontation and judgment, whereas before it had been for fellowship. Possible the sound he heard was uncharacteristically harsh & is why he was afraid. With that being said, I agree with you that it is reasonable to infer that He spent time with them, but the Bible does not imply that He did, and that was the point of this post. Not once. However, were here to serve everyone without cost, so please dont feel obligated to give unless the Lord leads. Because at this time there are only three people left from the list. I am not disagreeing and saying that Gods reason for coming was not to proclaim judgment, I am disagreeing by saying that we can not say for sure what Gods reason was for coming, Scripture doesnt clarify. Adam and Eve were ashamed of what they had done and afraid to face God, so they hid in the trees. It was idyllic. And maybe that is it, people just want to believe they they did as that is such a powerful feeling knowing God is walking with you. The only possible biblical reference to walking in the Garden of Eden is found after Adam and Eve sinned. I would argue that angels are probably made in His image as well,. I do however give a lot of thought when people preach/teach as truth that which is not written but surmised by man/woman to have taken place. If so, then it seems to follow that there would be ongoing communion and communication between God, Adam, and Eve. If he was just manifesting himself in a strong wind, there would be no need to use the word walking. Thank you for your thoughts I do understand the whirlwind , but Gen says God made them clothes from an animal to replace mans attempt of covering his nakedness. That he still comes to them even after theyve sinned emphasizes that they have made the first move away from him, before he moves them away from Himself by putting them out of Eden. How cool would that be! When he made Eve, he took a rib, closed up Adams side with flesh and then he brought the woman to Adam. It seems so trivial. What is the one thing that He values the most, as we know it? 21? God walking with people normally suggests closeness and intimacy and fellowship. But, despite the beauty of God's new world, there was one thing missing. Im pointing out that possible understanding of the text. Again, Im not opposed to the idea at all, but the text just never says it. For more information on the subject of Heaven, see Randy Alcorns book Heaven. Thank you for your post and your diligence to pursuing Biblical accuracy! But its an irrelevant point. Adam and Eve surely knew that the punishment for rebellion was deathand even if they didnt understand the fullness of that word, they knew it wasnt good. It is doubtful that God threw Adam into a confusing environment where he would be overwhelmed with the array of plants and animals. Satan. Randy Alcorn (@randyalcorn) is the author of over sixtybooks and the founder and director of Eternal Perspective Ministries. I have no problem with the concept of Adam and Eve walking with God and seeing Him. Finally, there are many who use the idea of Adam and Eve actually walking with God to stress the theological point of mans closeness to God prior to sin in order to contrast that with mans lost condition after sin. This just isnt found in the text and seems very unlikely in light of the details given in the post. I agree that it is very possible that God walked with Adam and Eve in the garden but there is no written statement(s) that support this. They were placed in the Garden of Eden and given everything they needed: food, work, companionship, and fellowship with God as they walked with him in the cool of the day (Genesis 3:8). "Until the cool of the day when the shadows flee away, Turn, my beloved, and be like a gazelle. The Bible doesnt say that, and that is the point of the article. Why would God spend time with them, because He loved them and wanted to share His love with them! Again, in Gen 3:24, we see that God drove the man out of the Garden of Eden. I think youve understood exactly what I was seeking to accomplish. Answer (1 of 22): Yes. Jesus is Lord God, He is the Son of God. Granted, Adam and Eve walking with God poses no theological problems, but my point here is that the strength (or better, weakness) of that particular argument is roughly the same. Tim> However, that fact has very little to do with whether He walked with Adam and Eve in the garden. for details. There are many others that could be added to this list but this illustrates . I dont have a problem with people thinking that Adam and Eve walked with God (as I stated, they may have), but I want people to realize that the Bible doesnt say that they did. Adam was ashamed to stand before God as he was now a sinner who was about to face his righteous God. You havent dealt with this in your explanation. So when the text says that Adam heard the sound of the Lord moving in the garden, it doesnt necessarily mean that Adam knew right away that it was God making the noise. IOW, IMV Where Adam FAILED, Christ Jesus PASSED, *Saying all this Tim, I truly respect your thoughts and views as a brother in Christ. Adam and Eve Hide From God. I am so happy to find your website. It would be accurate if the point of my article was to claim that Adam and Eve did not walk with God in the Garden prior to sin. And I think a strong case can be made for the notion that they werent in the garden very long at all. Lastly, as scripture verifies scripture, we see the second Adam, known as Jesus Christ in regular and perpetual contact with the same God and Father. Read lev 25:20 and if you shall say what shall we eat in the 7th year? The difficulties of translation, plus inevitable translator bias, can complicate getting a true understanding. September 13, 2019. Thats the point of this post. I have found Bible studies that indicate that God fellowshipped or walked with Adam and Eve, and they refer to Genesis 3:8. As I mentioned in the conclusion of the article, it is certainly possible that the Lord walked with Adam and Eve, and if He did, then it may well have been the preincarnate Christ who walked with them. Never stop, word will not go void! God told them to be fruitful and multiply. It is true that they had not experienced death yet, they came pre-programmed with an ability to speak and understand things. Hi Daniel, They hide among the trees. I will make a helper suitable for him" ( Genesis 2:18 ). They hear a sound. And whatever Adam called each living creature, that was its name.<<<<. Thank you and God bless you! Genesis 3:21 comes after Genesis 3:7, in which Adam and Eve ate from the Tree and realized they were naked. God bless! Your entire post is irrelevant to the discussion because you are trying to show what it means when it says that someone walked with God. Well done! This just goes on and on and on all the way through this book about how god expects his people to walk with him please read the book of Leviticus slowly it gives all the details that genesis doesnt. I think too often we read ideas into a passage that might be accurate, but then through the years, our interpretation of the passage is taken as a given that it must be true. You can see from the above that God decreed several things for Adam to honour and obey. But then you had already stated this was possible. The imagery in the temple indicates that it was recreating Eden, indicating that God was present in Eden in a special way that he was not present in other places on the earth. That is exactly how his walking with Adam and Eve in the Garden is depicted. For more on the issue of Cains wife, see this article: https://answersingenesis.org/bible-characters/cain/cains-wife-who-was-she/. Looking at that from an opposite perspective; Is it not also true that it is not stated they werent walking with God? Who were they conversing with? Thanks for your thoughts on this. Thanks for this article, it was an interesting read. 14Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your presence; I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me.. Just read John 1 it says God was there in the beginning and on earth in the flesh so just read the book. Totally agree with you to know that not everything was told to us, but take what we are told and use it for good, not for argument. We walk with the voice of God as well. If so, Adam and Eve's reaction makes more sense. Ive heard this, believed this, and repeated this on more than one occasion. Instead, He manifested as a violent wind, perhaps not too different than how He spoke to Job out of the whirlwind (Job 38:1). Can a whirlwind fulfill those processes? See my article, Was Jesus Married? Before the fall, Adam and Eve were without sin and immortal . Genesis 3:8 Context. Much like those of us that have the infilling of the Holy Ghost and walk in the Spirit. I too feel in my sosirt that God did not walk physically. But nowhere does it mention or even implies that they "saw" God face to face. I dont think it was a mystery to themat least not completely. And a good place to start is The Garden of Eden. The old has . Ive enjoyed reading your article, the comments and your responses. In all likelihood, it comes from a misunderstanding of or making an inference from Genesis 3:8: And they heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day (NKJV). Thanks for your thoughts and kind words. He was with them when they were deceived by Satan. I appreciate your effort Tim, thank you. ILL TAKE YOUR APOLIGE NOW ,,WHERE THEY USE TO WALK WITH GOD ,THEY CHOOSE TO HIDE !! Now at that time there was an evil spirit called Satan. So if your standard were correct, then that same standard would itself have to be outright affirmed in the Bible. They heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden at the time of the evening breeze, and the man and his wife hid from the presence of the Lord God among the trees of the garden. Psalm 29 also uses strong imagery to show how the sound of the Lord acts upon nature like a powerful storm, breaking and bending trees and stripping off their leaves (Psalm 29:59, NET). 9 But the LORD God called out to the man, "Where are you?" 10 "I heard Your voice in the garden," he replied . Genesis 3:8. I dont recall a specific instance of this, but since the promised land was repeatedly spoken of as a land flowing with milk and honey, I take that to mean that their flocks would thrive and they would have an abundance of milk (in addition to honey and more). Whats not fine with me is saying that the Bible says something that it doesnt. Beyond that, the Bible does not tell us about any communication between our first parents and God until after the fall. I appreciate your fidelity to Gods Word. by Erik Jones. God must have schooled him in his new surroundings. But there is so much more to the story. who knows perhaps it was. Other Biblical accounts clearly show this - as it is God who speaks with, walks with, and assist humans to discover His nature and His love. This would still fit with the idea of God coming in judgment, which was given as a possibility in the article. The idea that one could walk with God, after all, had been a possible reality only once before, in Genesis 3:8, where Adam and Eve hear "the sound of the Lord God walking about in the garden." Adam and Eve were called to a radical intimacy with God, one that they forfeited through their sin, which resulted in their expulsion from Eden and . If we were to narrowly abide only what the text OUTRIGHT affirms of given things, then this inference would be patently erroneous or, at least, unreasonable. Weve arrived at a very similar conclusion very recently that Adam and his wife or help-meat very possibly disobeyed their creators command not to eat of the fruit of tree in the midst of the garden the first day they were placed there. The Hebrew verb, halak, is translated as "walking" in this passage. Moses was only granted the backside of Jesus. Please read Genesis 3:8-10: "Later they HEARD the VOICE OF JEHOVAH GOD as he was walking in the garden about the breezy part of the day, and the man and his wife hid from the face of Jehovah God among the trees of the garden. When the Lord made him on the sixth day, He commanded him not to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Hello Tim, I honestly do not understand why you are so hellbent on trying to make a point of saying that Adam and Eve did not walk with God? 5 Bible Verses about God Walking. Yes, Im aware that the KJV translates the term as voice. But look closely, notice that it never says they walked with the voice of God. Hi Tim. I dont think its a matter of God wanting or not wanting to spend time with His creation, but more of a matter of how much time passed before they rebelled. And how many times is this a supporting argument for a main point or the main point itself? The same (principle) applies to the natural reading of anything: that according to the thing itself. It was perfectalmost. Much of the talk of the Adam & Eve story revolves around how they ate the . 6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. Why? "And out of the ground the LORD God made every tree grow that is pleasant to the sight and good for food. Sincerely, Where is the specific support for this argument found anywhere in the scriptures? Seasoned or mature believers should know the text, the text is the milk, living the text is the meat. The Lord could speak from His throne and these actions could be performed just as easily as if He had manifested in the garden to perform the actions. Just a quick note: The verb used here in verse 8 to describe the divine movement of God mihalli (sorry, my keyboard isnt able to type this word out correctly) suggests iterative and habitual aspects. One of those commandments was as follows: "And the LORD God gave this command to Adam: 'You may freely eat from every tree in the garden, except you must not eat of the tree of the knowledge of . Why werent they mentioned? Yes, I see that there are similarities, and I dont deny the possibility that God was present in the garden in a special way compared to the way that He is omnipresent. 2. If this is the correct way to understand the wording in Genesis 3, then I think it would be something similar. It doesnt say that they were walking with God. I clarified my statement about strong wind being a better translation to point out that there are scholars who make this claim, like J.J. Niehaus. Because they nearly always cite the verse about Adam and Eve hearing the sound of the Lord walking in the garden. Remember that the Holy Spirit came at Pentecost with a rushing mighty wind (Acts 2:2). This is what most people have in mind when they speak of the Lord walking with Adam and Eve. 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